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Elküldve: 21 November 2010 - 04:07 PM

Üzenet megtekintéseIdézés: Alex999 - Dátum: 2010 Sep 25, 14:26

Egy ideje, k.b. másfél éve zsírmájat diagnosztizált nálam a belgyógyászom, bár ez a betegség nem jár különösebb tünetekkel.
k.b. 1 hete kezdődött nálam, hogy minden étkezés után szinte pontosan 3 órával rettenetesen kellemetlen rosszullét jelentkezik, ami a végtagok izzadásával, kihűlésével, illetve a perifériák, mint pl. az orr kihűlésével kezdődik és fokozódik majdnem az eszméletvesztésig. Egyidejűleg növekszik a vérnyomás (ami egyébként általában 120/80) 160/100-as értékre és fulladásos légszomj lép fel. Megfigyelésem szerint mellékhatásként bélgázok képződnek, amelyek enyhén kellemetlenek (görcsösek) de nem elviselhetetlenek. Ez az állapot 1-2 órán keresztül tart (jobb esetben). Így hát ott tartok, hogy inkább nem eszek semmit, hogy ne idézzem elő ezt a rosszullétet - amitől nem tudok dolgozni, aludni, bármit csinálni.
A belgyógyászom azt mondta, hogy esetleg az lehet a gond, hogy az epe termeli ugyan az epefolyadékot, de amikor a táplálék odaér, nem kap ingert annak kieresztésére és ez okozhatja a tüneteket. Bár ez szerinte a kísérő rosszullétet nem indokolja.
Kérdésem az, hogy lehet-e osszefüggés az emésztési zavarok és a hirtelen vérkeringés zavara között?


Kedves Sanyi!

Problémája első olvasatra valóban meglehetősen összetettnek, "rejtélyesnek" tűnik, ezért aztán nem is mernék rá vállalkozni, hogy távolról megoldjam...
Kezdem atlán a végén: összefüggés mindenképp van, ha nem is az emésztési zavarok és a vérkeringés, de egyszerűen az emésztés és a vérkeringés közt. Hiszen a táplálék emésztése, felszívódása meglehetően energia- és vérigényes folyamat. Emésztéskor arányaiban sokkal több vér "tartózkodik" a zsigeri területeken, mint szokásosan, s mint testünk egyéb szervrendszereiben. Tehát a perifériák kihűlése, sőt az agy viszonylagos vérhiányos állapota (--> eszméletvesztést megelőző állapot) jól magyarázható lenne adott esetben egy intenzív emésztési folyamat beindulásával. A többi tünet-panasz azonban (végtagok izzadása, hasi görcsök, légszomj, emelkedett vérnyomás), igaza van a belgyógyásznak, nehezen hozható összefüggésbe az egésszel.

Hogy a belgyógyász kollégának nem volt igazán komoly, okos ötlete, az számomra azt jelzi: elképzelhető, hogy nem is belszervi, szervi eredetű problémára, hanem esetleg inkább idegrendszeri (pl. szorongásos jellegű) zavarra kell gyanakodnunk. Az persze elképzelhető, hogy a rosszullét indulásáért a felpörgő emésztési folyamatok, s a testen belüli vérmennyiség hirtelen eloszlásváltozása a felelős, ám az egészet ezt követően már inkább az agy "turbózza" fel ilyen összetett és kellemetlen szorongásos rosszullétté.

Érdemes lenne felkeresni egy ilyesmivel foglalkozó "idegszakembert", pszichiátert. Ha az ő módszereivel sikerül megszüntetni a problémát, akkor máris megvan az ok is és a megoldás is egycsapásra!

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Elküldve: 25 September 2010 - 02:26 PM

36 éves vagyok, nőtlen, nemdohányzó, alkoholt csak alkalmanként fogyasztó irodai adminisztrátor vagyok. Furcsa betegségemről szeretnék kérdezni Öntől, illetve bárkitől aki esetleg tudna rajtam segíteni/tanácsot adni.
Egy ideje, k.b. másfél éve zsírmájat diagnosztizált nálam a belgyógyászom, bár ez a betegség nem jár különösebb tünetekkel.

Tüneteim viszont vannak, amik más, esetleg súlyosabb dologra is utalnak.
Tehát:
k.b. 1 hete kezdődött nálam, hogy minden étkezés után szinte pontosan 3 órával rettenetesen kellemetlen rosszullét jelentkezik, ami a végtagok izzadásával, kihűlésével, illetve a perifériák, mint pl. az orr kihűlésével kezdődik és fokozódik majdnem az eszméletvesztésig. Egyidejűleg növekszik a vérnyomás (ami egyébként általában 120/80) 160/100-as értékre és fulladásos légszomj lép fel. Megfigyelésem szerint mellékhatásként bélgázok képződnek, amelyek enyhén kellemetlenek (görcsösek) de nem elviselhetetlenek.
Ez az állapot 1-2 órán keresztül tart (jobb esetben). Így hát ott tartok, hogy inkább nem eszek semmit, hogy ne idézzem elő ezt a rosszullétet - amitől nem tudok dolgozni, aludni, bármit csinálni.

A belgyógyászom azt mondta, hogy esetleg az lehet a gond, hogy az epe termeli ugyan az epefolyadékot, de amikor a táplálék odaér, nem kap ingert annak kieresztésére és ez okozhatja a tüneteket. Bár ez szerinte a kísérő rosszullétet nem indokolja.

Kérdésem az, hogy lehet-e osszefüggés az emésztési zavarok és a hirtelen vérkeringés zavara között?

Amennyiben az segítene, csatolhatom a vérképem adatait is.... Ott enyhén emelkedett az LDL koleszterin szint, szintén a triglicerid szint és kimagaslóan magas a húgysav szintje.

Válaszát előre is köszönöm.

Sanyi.