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Elküldve: 18 May 2018 - 05:06 PM

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Elküldve: 18 May 2018 - 05:04 PM

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Elküldve: 07 June 2001 - 07:43 PM

Kedden a területi választmányban folytatódott a Fidesz tisztújítása. A szombathelyi Fidesz-tagok közül Balogh József, Sági József, Schmidt András és Rettegi Attila tagja a testületnek. A sárvári tisztújító ülésen részt vett Kövér László és Rogán Antal is. Az ő eredeti elképzelésük az volt, hogy Kovács Ferencet Bebes István országgyűlési képviselő váltsa fel a megyei elnöki poszton. Bebes Istvánt a hírek szerint azzal gyanúsítják, hogy súlyos milliókat sikkasztott el a körmendi kosárcsapattól, ahol edzőként dolgozott. A körmendiek azonban olyan áldott jószívű emberek, hogy a feljelentéssel megvárják, amíg lejár Bebes István képviselői mandátuma. Bebes István tehát a parlamentből kikerülve rövid időn belül a börtönben találhatja magát, ha nem sikerül újabb négy évre képviselővé választatnia magát. Megyei elnökként jó esélye lett volna arra, hogy ő vezethesse a Vas megyei listát, így ettől nem kellett volna tartania. Ez táplálhatta az ambícióit. A legérdekesebb azonban az, hogy az országos vezetők Szombathelyhez hasonlóan a megyei vezetésben is, sőt talán máshol is (Hódmezővásárhely?) nem éppen patyolattiszta embereket igyekeznek helyzetbe hozni. A szombathelyi események hatására Kövér és Rogán végül mégsem merték felvállalni Bebes elnökségének következményeit, ezért a szóbeszéd szerint az ülés előtti nyolcszemközti (Kövér, Rogán, Bebes, Kovács) megbeszélésen Bebes Istvánnak azt mondták, hogy "el ne merjen indulni", Kovács Ferencet feltételekkel bár, de támogatásukról biztosították. A feltétel az volt, hogy a választmány kooptálja, azaz fogadja teljes jogú tagjává Dr. Gyimesi József és Dr. Györkös Péter országgyűlési képviselőket (az alapszabály erre lehetőséget ad), majd őket is és Bebes Istvánt is válasszák a területi választmány alelnökévé. Az ülésen Gyimesi József jó szokásához híven összeszólalkozott Kovács Ferenc megyei elnökkel és Markó Péterrel, a Vas Megyei Közgyűlés elnökével. Rettegi Attila a szombathelyi csoport nevében(!) kérte a Szombathelyen már számtalanszor leszerepelt Gyimesi kooptálását a választmány tagjaitól. A titkos szavazáson Dr. Gyimesi József kooptálását mindössze hárman, Dr. Györkös Péter kooptálását négyen támogatták a 19 szavazásra jogosultból, így nem lettek a testület tagjai. Hozzá kell tenni, hogy eddig a kooptálások mintegy automatikusan működtek, természetes volt az országgyűlési képviselők választmányi taggá fogadása. Az ellenérzéseket többek között éppen az váltotta ki, hogy Gyimesi és Györkös a Fidesz alelnökeinek hathatós támogatásával igyekszik beverekedni magát. A titkos szavazáson elsöprő többséggel Kovács Ferencet újraválasztották megyei elnöknek. Az alelnöki posztért Gyimesi és Györkös már nem is indulhatott, hiszen nem lettek a választmány tagjai, a Kövér és Rogán által szintén preferált Bebes István pedig mindössze két szavazatot kapott, így ő sem nyerte el az alelnöki tisztséget. Bebes István 1989-től a mostani tisztújításig volt tagja az elnökségnek, úgy tűnik, nem használt neki a nagytekintélyű vezér urak támogatása. Alelnök lett Horváthné Stukics Erzsébet, Pajor András, Sági József és Széles Zsolt. Kövér László mindezek után köszönés nélkül autóba ült és elhajtott, nem fogadta még Kovács Ferenc és Markó Péter kéznyújtását sem. Rogán Antal maradt az ülés végéig, sőt még azután is, a vele folytatott kötetlen beszélgetésekből az derült ki, hogy ő a tisztújítás kapcsán kirobbant botrány miatt már nem kíván Szombathellyel foglalkozni, a továbbiakban mindent a szombathelyiek belátására bíz.

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Elküldve: 06 June 2001 - 11:06 PM

Pfújjjj! Undorító még a gondolat felvetése is, hogy ilyen dolgok az én városomban megtörténhettek! Ha mindez igaz, akkor én inkább visszaköltözöm Játékországba! Nem maradok ilyen mocskos városban, mert bepiszkolódik még az égszínkék bundám is.

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Elküldve: 06 June 2001 - 10:31 PM

Összegyűjtöttem Nektek, hogy milyen pletykákat lehet hallani a városban a Fidesszel kapcsolatban…1. A várost gyakorlatilag az évszázad adócsalásával gyanúsított Raszter Kft. (Sákovics, Kövesdi fideszes képviselőkkel az élen) irányítja. 2. 1998 óta ez a cég különböző technikákkal többszáz-millió forintot lopott el a városkasszából.3. A Raszter 3-4 millió forintért már több fideszes önkormányzati képviselőt (Bukits Miklós, Horváth Zsolt, Rettegi Attila) a hűbéresévé tett.4. A Fidesz tisztújítása Dr. Kövesdi Zoltán forgatókönyve szerint zajlott. Ő a Raszter esze, így az ő feladata volt, hogy kidolgozza, hogy hogyan érvényesülhetnek a legjobban a cég érdekei a Fideszben.5. A Raszternek olyan polgármesterre van szüksége, aki mellett nyugodtan lophatnak, csalhatnak. Erre jó Dr. Szabó Gábor, ezért a céljuk Szabó újraválasztása.6. Olyan Fidesz-elnökre van szükségük, akit kötélen rángathatnak, így el lehet érni, hogy a Fideszből a nyelvvizsgaügye miatt kizárt Szabó Fidesz-jelöltként induljon. Erre jó Rettegi Attila.7. A siker érdekében kerestek egy megvesztegethető Fidesz-vezért, aki helyben az ő elképzeléseik mellett kardoskodik. Ő lett Rogán Antal.8. Rettegit és Rogánt is lepénzelték. Bukits Miklóst, Horváth Zsoltot már régen. Szabót még régebben.9. A tisztújításban fontos szerepet játszott Oké, azaz Horváth József atya is, aki több képviselővel is jelen van a szombathelyi közgyűlésben: az ő embere Rettegi Attila és Horváth Zsolt. 10. Horváth József szeret kis pályázatokon sok pénzt nyerni, ezért van szüksége a politikusokra. A munka még hatékonyabb, ha Rettegi vagy Horváth Zsolt az elnök, így az ő érdekei egybeestek a Raszter Kft-ével. 11. Oké atya Rogán Antalnál és Harrach Péter szociális miniszternél lobbizott Rettegi elnökké választása érdekében. 12. Oké atya üzletember, nem pap. Erre utal az is, hogy Oké atyának élettársa és gyereke van. A gyerek egy korábbi élettársától született.13. Az új városi Fidesz elnök, Rettegi Attila által vezetett iskolában súlyos pénzügyi visszaélések történtek.14. Retteginé férje középiskolájában általános iskolai tanárként, tehát a megfelelő képesítés hiányában tanít.15. Dr. Gyimesi József fideszes országgyűlési képviselő tanácstag volt.16. Dr. Gyimesi József vezető szombathelyi MSZP-sekkel közös telekspekulációs ügyekben és privatizációs visszaélésekben érintett.17. A sajtó azért nem ír ezekről, mert őket is lepénzelték. Lepénzelte a Raszter és lepénzelte a Fidesz-vezetés is, mert túl kellemetlen lenne nekik, ha kiderülne.Hát ilyeneket lehet hallani. Reméljük, mindebből semmi sem igaz!

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Elküldve: 07 June 2001 - 12:26 AM

Tisztelt Rettegi Attila!Szeretném megköszönni azt, hogy válaszra méltatott. Igaz, hogy nem a konkrét kérdéseimre kaptam konkrét válaszokat, de azt gondolom a közhatalmat gyakorló politikus és a pórnép kommunikációja között már az is nagy eredmény, ha egyáltalán válaszra méltatják az alattvalókat. Szép és finom elv, ha a politikus-féle azt gondolja, hogy a köznép tartsa magát távol a politikától. De mi történik, ha a politika nem tartja magát távol tőle? Az Ön válasza tudatosította bennem azt a hatalmi gőgöt, mely kellően figyelmeztetett arra, hogy olyan pályára tévedtem a kérdéseimmel, amely zavarja Önt. Faldöngetésként zavarták a kérdéseim azt az elefántcsonttornyot, amelybe visszahúzódva – véleményem szerint – Önmagát zárta be. Pedig továbbra is azt gondolom, mint kérdéseimnél fentebb leírtam: az embereknek veleszületett, a magyaroknak pedig írott törvénnyel is megszentelt jussa, hogy szabadon szóljon és kérdezzen. Sajnálatos, hogy nem mindenki, és Ön sem így gondolja.Száz esztendővel ezelőtt csak a legélesebb elmével bírók sejtették meg azt, amit ma minden ember tud, és nap, mint nap, sőt a nap huszonnégy órájában a saját bőrén megtapasztal, ez pedig nem más; mint a vezető politikus elhatárolódása az egyéntől és az egyénekből álló társadalomtól. Pediglen akármi is történik, arról az aranyigazságról nem szabad(na) megfeledkezni, hogy a politika és a politikai hatalom miképpen nem nélkülözheti az értelem és a bölcsek tanácsát, azonképpen legkevésbé nem nélkülözheti a szuverén egyén(ek) véleményét sem.Rettegi Úr! Ön szerint kell-e javítani ott, hol csapnivaló az egész?Az elhallgatások, a ki nem mondott gondolatok, a rosszul értelmezett tapintat árnyékában súlyos előítéletek tenyésznek, és be nem gyógyult sebek gennyednek. Ha úgy teszünk, mintha minden rendben volna, ha a sokszor oly kegyes időre bízzuk a megoldást, akkor ez nem más, mint törvényeink szellemének és a gondolkodó emberi létünknek a megcsúfolása. A modern demokrácia végeredményben a polgár, a műgonddal alkotó ember életformájának győzelmét is jelenti a magát hatalmi helyzetekben kiélő, és reprezentáló zsarnokok felett.Bibó prédikátori igéje úgy fogalmaz, hogy az igazi demokrácia nem szükségszerű erőfeszítés, hanem csupán jóakarat kérdése. Ahhoz, hogy beléphessünk egy hátsó gondolat nélkül működő konszenzusok világába, nem elég a puszta jog és az alapszabály kötelezése, sem a külső törvény. Ehhez egyedül jóakarat, belső racionálisan nem megpreparálható úgymond isteni törvény hozhat számunkra újat, és nem mást, mint; a meg nem becstelenített demokráciát. Ez ma az egyedüli lehetséges kijárat az elefántcsonttornyából. És szintén ez a példaszerű belső út is. Mind egyéni-, de egyben mind közösségi út is, melytől egyedül remélhető, hogy bármi is közös céllá, magatartássá és tenni akarássá összegződjék. Azt csakis magunknak lehet önismereti schulungok révén tudatossá tenni, hogy milyen sikerrel tervezhetjük érdemes megmaradásunkat. Pusztán megmaradni sokféleképpen lehet; de becsületes demokráciát tisztelő erkölcsös emberként aligha randevúzhatunk másképp a jövővel.Rettegi Úr! Az Ön retteg. Válaszaiból, kiderül az Ön félelme elsősorban saját pártja-, másodsorban a közvélemény felé mutatkozik. Fél, hogy nem képes megfelelni, és az elvárásoknak, valamint a terhek súlya alatt összeroskad. Ön fél Rogán Antaltól, fél a sokfelé szakadt Fidesz alapszervezettől, melynek az elnöke, és valamiért, ami nem került nyilvánosságra, de fél Balogh Józseftől is. Nem szerencsés, ha valakit félelmei vezetnek.Agyoncitáltuk már, hogy demokratának lenni annyit tesz, mint nem félni. De ez nemcsak azt jelenti, hogy nem félni a hatalomtól, az aktuális rendszertől, a pártoktól, a pártok elnökeitől, és ettől az egész nevesincstől. Főként, nem félni tisztán gondolkodni, nem félni akár önmagunkra rákérdezni, nem félni a ránk vonatkozó és hozzánk intézet kérdéseket őszintén megválaszolni. TEHÁT NEM FÉLNI, HANEM ÉLNI!Sz. L.Ui.: Azokra a kérdéseimre, melyekre nem, vagy csak részben válaszolt továbbra is várnám válaszát!

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Elküldve: 06 June 2001 - 11:30 PM

Miért lenne az baj, ha lakossági fórummá válna ez a fórum? Hát nem arra törekszik a Fidesz, hogy minden lehetőséget megragadjon a választókkal való kapcsolattartásra?

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Elküldve: 05 June 2001 - 02:51 PM

Miután igyekeztem néhány kérdést megválaszolni, ha lehet, visszahúzódnék, hiszen nem akarom a fórumot lakossági fórummá átalakítani.Ugyanakkor ha vannak kérdések, észrevételek hozzám, bárki nyugodtan írhat a reattila@drotposta.hu címre. Igyekszem majd válaszolni.Rettegi Attila